Port Credit Marine Surveys
& Yacht Delivery
Society of Accredited Marine Surveyors
American Boat & Yacht Council
|My Fee Schedule and why it costs what it
Pre-purchase marine surveys on a used boat is usually FREE !
Pre-purchase marine surveys on a new boat is sometimes FREE !
Any decent marine surveyor will almost always find enough deficiencies on a used boat to more than cover the cost of the survey if you choose to negotiate those deficiencies into the price..... who wouldn't ? That difference is very often greater than the cost of the survey, therefore it's usually free.
|Insurance Surveys, Condition and Valuation
These different types of surveys are offered by many surveyors and they provide various justifications for their abbreviated reports. I don't want to be associated with short, often checklist survey reports that some insurers accept. Many surveyors provide only "insurance" surveys of this abreviated type and these are generally less knowledgable fly-by-nighters picking up a few bucks on the side. Ask what they leave out in one of their less expensive versions. I do only one level of report ..... a Marine Survey Report typified by the sample reports you can link to on my home page. My reports are valid for all purposes and guaranteed to be accepted internationally without reserve.
Not satisfied with the surveyor sent by your insurance company ? I'd be happy to provide a second opinion. I cannot provide a quote on this type of survey until I know all the particulars of the vessel and damage but I'd probably charge an hourly rate.
|under 24'||$400.00 lot + HST||I believe my fees are commensurate with other
truly qualified and Accredited Marine Surveyors in Ontario but there are non-accredited surveyors who will work for $8 or $9.00 per
foot and I am sure they are worth every penny.
To compare my fees to others in Ontario see
"List of Every Surveyor in Ontario (almost)"
|24 to 32'||$17.00 /ft + HST|
|33' to 39'||$18.00 /ft + HST|
|39' to 48'||$19.00 /ft + HST|
|Over 48'||Please ask for quote|
|Travel||0.60 cents per klm.|
|PAYMENT - E-transfer preferred, cash or cheque, NO CREDIT CARDS|
|I did not previously charge for travel within
the GTA but recent gas prices have changed
that and I now charge for all travel at .60/km
with $5 minimum).
My fees listed above are pretty firm but may be affected by odd vessels or odd circumstances. I will certainly advise you before I accept the commission if my price will be different than stated above. I may charge less for some unfinished vessels or houseboats as they tend to be fairly simple.
Due to time lost looking for parking and waiting for ferries or yacht club tenders I charge an added $100.00 for surveying on the Toronto Islands plus any parking or tender fees.
Depending on circumstances some kind of premium will be charged for out of province surveys or I may charge a flat daily rate including travel and report writing time plus expenses.
My reports are issued before midnight same day for local marine surveys i.e. between Niagara-on-the-Lake and Pickering and south from Lake Simcoe. Outside of this area but within Southern Ontario reports will be issued before midnight of the next day. Out of province marine survey reports will be issued within 12 hours of returning to my desk. Reports are sent in a locked pdf. format that you may read but not print. Once payment is received (e-transfer, or cash preferred, cheque accepted) a printable copy will be forwarded to you.
Most marine surveyors charge by the foot L.O.A. although some US marine surveyors are now charging by the hour. There are good arguments for both methods but I choose to charge by the foot.
At one time I actually measured boats for pricing purposes but my numbers never came out to what the manufacturer claimed and I had occasional disagreements over what length I was charging for. Consider the boats listed below.......
A Carver 325 is actually 30' 2"
A Bayliner 4087 is actually 34' 8"
A Sea Ray Sundancer 480 is actually 55' 8"
A Bayfield 36 is actually 41' 3"
In order to avoid confusion I decided to charge by the foot according to whatever L.O.A. was published. By published I mean original factory specifications from company web sites or original advertising material or when those are not available I use the Power Boat Guide, Mausch's Sailboat Guides or owners association web sites.
WHY DOES IT COST SO MUCH ?
Mileage is charged round trip at whatever mileage Google Maps comes up with. At 60 cents / kilometer I charge about $90.00 to drive from Port Credit to Port Dalhousie and back, thats about 3 hours plus the cost of gas, insurance (business vehicle insurance costs more), depreciation and tires etc. I don't get a company car allowance and $90.00 isn't much when you add it all up. I pay for my own computers, software, this web site and other advertising, stationary, moisture meters, corrosion meters, Barcol testers, cameras, thermal camera, infrared thermometers, multi-meters etc. and oh yeah........little brass hammers and dental picks (that you often get to keep when they are dropped in the bilge) and it often takes longer to write the report than it does to do the survey.
I am not doing this to supplement a government pension or my income as a disc jockey or groundskeeper like some others in Ontario. I am a full time professional who pays dues to the Society of Accredited Marine Surveyors®, American Boat & Yacht Council, BoatUS Technical Exchange and BoatUS Consumer Protection database. I have spent a small fortune building my library of Transport Canada, ABYC , ABS, NFPA, UL, ISO and CSA standards along with dozens of reference books and also pay for annual continuing education courses required to maintain my AMS® status.
I do not qualify for unemployment insurance and I do not have a drug, eye glass, dental or extended health plan. No one pays into a company pension plan for me. I don't get a Christmas bonus and I get neither sick days nor paid vacation time
Hey ! wait a minute........I'm working for less than minimum wage !
Believe it or not I love every second of what I do for a living..... think about it.... I hang around boats all day, then people give me money.
Check out this list of Every Marine Surveyor In Ontario or this one of Every SAMS® Surveyor In Canada and don't forget to ask to see Sample Marine Survey Reports
Wallace Gouk AMS®
Society of Accredited Marine Surveyors
SAMS® Accredited Marine Surveyor, Seal #757
ABYC® Certified Technichian #10952
Transport Canada Licensed Master
Transport Canada Tonnage Measurer
BoatUS® Approved Marine Surveyor